Deanna Adkins

Deanna Adkins

Deanna Adkins, MD, is the director and founder of Duke Child and Adolescent Gender Care Clinic. Her mother was an accountant for a rural health system, and she instilled in Dr. Adkins that, if she was going to become a doctor, she needed to truly care for her patients. Dr. Adkins originally began practicing endocrinology because she wanted the chance to see her patients all throughout their youth. In 2013, a primary care doctor needed to refer a transgender patient to an endocrinologist, and my sheer chance, Dr. Adkins received the referral. Afterwards, she began to take more transgender patients upon realizing they were having to travel states away to access medical care. She found the work deeply rewarding because of the lifesaving effect it had on her patients and chose to commit to specializing in gender-affirming care. When she founded the clinic, she quickly realized quality gender-affirming care would require a multidisciplinary team and began to recruit more practitioners. For the first few years, the clinic was the only option for gender-affirming care for transgender youth in the Southeast, and the number of patients multiplied. When one of her patients sued a Florida school system for the right to use the bathroom corresponding with their identity, Dr. Adkins became an expert witness for the case. This led to a close relationship with the ACLU and involvement in more cases as an expert witness. Additionally, Dr. Adkins became involved in LGBTQ+ advocacy within the Duke medical system by ensuring medical staff were trained in practices such as pronoun sharing, and that medical data systems were designed with LGBTQ+ patients in mind.

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0:28 Growing up, impact of family, decision to become doctor, mother’s negative impression of doctors 1:31 Early advocacy sentiment 1:53 College education at Georgia Tech, engineering and molecular biology background, Medical College of Georgia, residency in North Carolina 3:06 Interest in preventative healthcare, influence of older sister 4:04 Interest in endocrinology, diabetes in family 5:47 First referrals of transgender patients 7:09 Realizing similarities between gender affirming care and general endocrinology 7:44 Decision to permanently train in gender affirming care 8:01 Connection to patients 8:13 Experience with multidisciplinary medical teams, gender clinic founding in 2015 8:37 Interdisciplinary recruits and volunteers, social worker Chris Russell, religious care 11:25 Other interdisciplinary teams in Duke Medical pediatrics 12:30 Pure chance or “fate” of original involvement in transgender care 12:59 Rewarding nature of gender affirming care, excitement from patients 14:37 Relationship with patients’ parents, use of medical data and information to ease concerns 16:58 Effect of North Carolina House Bill 808, pain of turning away prospective patients 19:23 Power of being advocate and speaking up 20:12 Support from Duke, benefits of working in a private institution 21:02 Involvement in legal system, anxiety, support from legal experts, learning about legal system 24:06 Support from Duke Communications, vetting of media outlets and organizations to talk to, Human Rights Campaign 25:55 Challenges of advocating for transgender youth as a ciswoman, empowering transgender youth voices 27:17 Advocacy to make hospital system and staff more accepting to transgender people, pronoun training and sharing 29:41 Work with Epic medical records system 30:31 LGBT+ advocacy at Duke School of Medicine, Sex and Gender Diversity Inclusion Council, inclusivity training 32:32 Sex and Gender Wellness Clinic, LGBTQ+ unity, LGBTQ+ organizing with entire Duke community 32:24 Clinic growth, importance of recruiting from within own medical trainees 35:34 Need for more administrative support, pressure on social worker 36:06 Interest from medical students, Cultural Health and Health Disparities Course 37:10 North Carolina “Bathroom Bill,” protective feeling towards patients 38:24 Increased awareness of gender clinic from “Bathroom Bill” 39:23 Policy vs advocacy work, learning how to be an advocate 41:22 Learning from others, American Academy of Pediatrics advocacy course 42:10 Learning how to convince with data and stories 43:08 First legal cases, Lambda Legal, ACLU, being an expert witness and care provider, Adams v. The School Board of St. John’s County, Florida 44:37 Positive relationship with legal experts, Pauli Murray Award 46:26 Effect of wide geography region of care, effect of legislative attacks on other clinics 48:39 Future of gender affirming care at Duke. adult gender-affirming care, hope 50:16 Talking to patients about having to wait to access care 51:40 Recognition for work, learning to accept recognition 53:22 Learning from other disciplines, reliance on other providers, limitations of subspecialties 55:17 Continued work in inpatient services and general endocrinology, division of clinical time 56:09 Effect on advocacy of being from the South 57:22 Involvement with Equality NC, talking to state legislators, counteracting misinformation 59:38 Learning from patients, importance of staying informed on gender affirming care 1:01:15 Learning from parents, empathy for parents, education sessions for parents in the right setting 1:03:18 Importance of understanding patients’ self-identification and terminology, separation of gender identity and sexual orientation 1:05:25 New research, long history of affirmative care data, limitations of data, combatting skepticism of gender affirming care research 1:08:09 Overwhelming volume of work, extremely rapid growth in involvement in affirmative care 1:09:29 Setting boundaries, small size of department, setting limits on advocacy work 1:11:45 Patient voices, involving patients in medical school education, patient feedback, community advisory board 1:12:57 Registries to track long-term outcomes, tracking geriatric and adult outcomes 1:13:29 UNC Master of Social Work study for patient feedback, electronic health records (EHR) training, training modules for staff 1:15:15 Expansion of training modules over time, requirements to display ally symbol 1:16:40 Learning from early patients, designing treatment plans to meet patients goals 1:17:44 Learning about everyday struggles for transgender youth, training exercise for medical students to understand struggles of daily life 1:20:35 Joy of successfully helping patients transition, life changing effect of gender affirming care, patients becoming advocates 1:23:08 Empathy for reluctant parents, overcoming parent fear with education, fear for children who do not access clinic at all

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